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				<h2 style="text-align: center;font-family:Abril Fatface;font-weight:400;font-style:normal" class="vc_custom_heading vc_do_custom_heading" >Falling in Love with Washington</h2>
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		<p>Our first trip to Washington was on a road trip from Southern California in 2013. After two long days of driving , we arrived on the Olympic Peninsula in the dark of night. We wanted to see Olympic National Park, so we stayed two nights at the Mora campground and the amazing Hoh Rainforest campground. The rainforests and wild coastline were from a fairy tale! We were in awe of the beauty. Three days was definitely not enough!</p>
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		<div>That initial trip planted the seed that led to our move to Washington. One long day hike on the Hoh River Trail was enough to inspire CrtrGrl to set the bold goal of doing our first backpacking trip in the Hoh. The following year, we did a <a href="https://adventurephotography.forest2sea.com/backpacking-the-hoh-rainforest/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">4 night, 5 day backpacking trip up to Glacier Meadows and back</a>. Almost every year after that, we&#8217;ve made a trek to visit Washington, quickly deciding that we <em>needed</em> to live here.</div>
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		<h6 style="text-align: left;">&lt;==&nbsp; Photos from our initial trip to Washington and our backpacking trip up the Hoh River Valley the following year.</h6>
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		<p style="text-align: left;">We made a plan to start checking out areas to live in. We wanted to be close to nature, but also have easy access to civilization. Our requirements included being near amazing forests and mountains, but also near scuba diving in Puget Sound. So one year, while on vacation, we checked out <a href="https://adventurephotography.forest2sea.com/exploring-moran-state-park-orcas-island/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Orcas Island</a>, Anacortes, Bellingham and North Cascades National Park. Though each had their unique appeal, they didn&#8217;t quite check all of our boxes.</p>
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		<p style="text-align: left;">While hiking on <a href="https://adventurephotography.forest2sea.com/exploring-sucia-island/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sucia Island State Park</a>, we met a gentleman who told us he dreamed of retiring in <a href="https://enjoypt.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Port Townsend</a> on the Olympic Peninsula. We missed that stretch on our first road trip, so in 2017, we made the two day drive again with Port Townsend as our main destination. We fell in love with the charm and history of Port Townsend. It&#8217;s a small town that still looks like a sea port from the 1800&#8217;s. From Port Townsend, we were able to take day trips to more amazing Olympic National Park areas. We visited Sol Duc and the Elwha River Valley, and also to the towns of Sequim and Port Angeles. It definitely captured our heart!</p>
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		<h6 style="text-align: center;">CrtrGrl hiking in the beautiful North Cascades National Park, WA&nbsp; ==&gt;</h6>
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		<h6 style="text-align: center;">CrtrGrl captured me photographing Fossil Bay, Sucia Island, at low tide.</h6>
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		<p>There was one more place to check off. On our way south, we stayed near Hoodsport and the <a href="https://www.nps.gov/olym/planyourvisit/visiting-staircase.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Staircase entrance</a> to Olympic National Park. The diving there is reportedly amazing, but the town was a little too small and remote for us. At that point, we had done our homework enough to know the general area we wanted to live in. From then on, we focused our attention on the area surrounding Port Townsend.</p>
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		<h6 style="text-align: center;">All the places we checked out in Washington over 7 years! Click each dot to see where.</h6>
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		<p>Starting in 2016, we got serious about changing our lives. I had a stable career working on computer systems, but the place I worked was in a building with no windows that came with a 130 mile round trip commute. We wanted <a href="https://hippiesinforest.forest2sea.com/building-a-simpler-lifestyle/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a simpler life</a>, with <a href="https://biggreenheart.forest2sea.com/reducing-our-carbon-footprint/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">less impact on the planet</a>. Then we discovered tiny houses, the skoolie community and minimalism!</p>
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		<p>We asked ourselves what was really important to us. For CrtrGrl, she could sit in the forest all day and be completely happy. For me, I love to explore and capture what I see to share with others. What would we be willing to sacrifice to have more time and space to do that? A lot!</p>
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		<p>Since then, we&#8217;ve had a <strong>Grand Plan</strong> (literally this check list in an Evernote note &#8211; just that last item isn&#8217;t done yet!):</p>
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		<p>Now it didn&#8217;t all happen in the order we planned or even in the way that we planned. But somehow, we&#8217;ve navigated the ever changing obstacles to get closer to our end goal. We paid off all of our debts and minimized our expenses by cutting out things that weren&#8217;t necessary. That allowed us to start putting money into savings. We did all of that over the years while we were traveling to Washington to find the perfect area to live. CrtrGrl and I also started to brainstorm ways to transition to earning income from home, with the ultimate goal of earning passive income. We yearned to do meaningful work that aligned with our values. We&#8217;ve been slowly developing alternate ways of earning a living, but really haven&#8217;t succeeded in that department yet.</p>
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		<div style="text-align: left;">As part of transitioning out of the rat race, we went through all of our belongings and started the process of minimizing. I&#8217;d read a few books by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Minimalists" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Minimalists</a> (Minimalism: Live a Meaningful Life by Millburn/Nicodemus) and CrtrGrl had practiced it throughout her life, a result of moving a lot. The biggest challenge was going through my parent&#8217;s attic, where they had everything from my childhood. It was such a trip revisiting all of my childhood possessions (and school homework!). I pulled out a few things to hang on to, photographed things that had a special meaning to me and then donated/recycled them with the rest. We sold or donated a lot of our possessions, things we hadn&#8217;t used in over 6 months, things we wouldn&#8217;t need in Washington or be able to fit in a tiny house.</div>
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		<p>In late 2018, we bought <a href="https://www.instagram.com/skooliewoolie/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Skoolie Woolie</a> and in 2019, we made the leap! CrtrGrl and I saved up enough money to last about 6 months of reduced expenses. In March, I was promoted to deputy IPT lead for the Boeing team I was a part of. That prompted me to announce our plans that month and give my job over 5 months notice that I planned to leave. It enabled me to fully document everything I did and transition anything important. I was also able to negotiate some remote, part-time work after we moved and that helped with the transition. At the end of the day, I worked at that job for 17 years of my 21-year career. In some ways, it was leaving a family that was a huge part of my life. I definitely miss the people I worked with!</p>
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		<div>We are grateful my family gave us the opportunity to stay with them in Northern California, which made a huge difference in easing the transition. There, we did the <a href="https://hippiesinforest.forest2sea.com/skoolie-build-diary-part-1-demo/">demolition of Skoolie Woolie</a> in prep for building it out the way we wanted and started collecting raw material. We also focused our time on a few of our entrepreneurial projects. After about 6 months, we found the perfect rental in Sequim, WA that would allow us to start our dream of living in Washington and also keep working on Skoolie Woolie. That was right about the time that COVID-19 really started to kick the United State&#8217;s collective ass.</div>
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		<p style="text-align: left;">We made the move to Washington in April, 2020, in the middle of the pandemic and while trying to launch our <a href="https://awear.forest2sea.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Forest2Sea AWEAR Apparel</a> business. What a knack for timing! We packed up Skoolie Woolie with all of our belongings and made the long, 1 day drive from Northern California. The property owners were very supportive of our plans to build a tiny house/skoolie and have plans of doing their own year long road trip with their kids. We immediately got to work again on earning income, launching AWEAR Apparel later that month. Still living off of savings, we knew adding rent would push us harder to figure out income.</p>
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		<p style="text-align: left;">The family we&#8217;re renting a studio from have been such a wonderful gift to us. Combined with the other tiny house renters on the 10 acre property, it&#8217;s given us a sense of community that we hadn&#8217;t experienced in Southern California. CrtrGrl works in the shared garden, helps watch over the pets and we get to play with the kids. We&#8217;ve gone hiking and jogging and had late nights of beer and conversation around their campfire. It&#8217;s been a wonderful experience!</p>
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		<p>I now understand generational wealth and the privilege that comes with it. Through no action of my own, I am receiving the benefits of decisions my relatives made 80 years ago. We acknowledge how fortunate we are and how most people don&#8217;t have this. Since we&#8217;re living off our savings right now and trying to start up our own business, we wouldn&#8217;t have been able to qualify for a traditional land loan through a bank for some time.</p>
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		<p>My grandparents were fortunate to be in a position to buy land in Southern California in the 1940&#8217;s. They built their own house, by hand, on 5 acres of hilly chaparral. At the time, it was very rural, with only dirt roads in the area. Fast forward a few decades and it ends up in between the wealthy neighborhoods of Rancho Santa Fe and Del Mar. My grandparents gave some of that land to my parents as an early inheritance, so that they could be around to see my parents enjoy it. When my parents moved out of Southern California last year, they sold their property. With some of the proceeds from the sale, my parents wanted to do the same thing for their kids that their parents did for them.</p>
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		<p>Our dream has been to eventually own land to park our skoolie on. We want to preserve a small patch of forest and live in harmony with the plants and animals. We&#8217;re so grateful to my parents that they made that happen for us. <strong>Because of an early inheritance from them, we&#8217;re now the super excited and a slightly frightened owners of 5 acres of forest next to Olympic National Park, near Port Angeles WA.</strong></p>
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		<h6>&lt;===&nbsp; &nbsp; My grandfather, Jack Santone, building their house in 1942 and also my parent&#8217;s property with Skoolie Woolie parked on the driveway.</h6>
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		<p>From our new property, we&#8217;ll have access to multiple entrances to Olympic National Park. Lake Crescent is only a few miles away. On our way into town for groceries (20 minute drive), we&#8217;ll cross over the beautiful and <a href="https://therevelator.org/elwha-dam-removal/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">recently freed Elwha river</a>. Past Lake Crescent, to the west, is the Sol Duc river valley. Going west to 2nd Beach on the Pacific coast is only an hour drive. Then, the amazing Hoh Rainforest is 1.5 hour drive. If we want to visit the Salish Sea / Straight of Juan de Fuca, it&#8217;s only a 20 minute drive.</p>
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		<div>The land is heavily forested, with 3 cleared areas. It has electricity, a well and a septic system. It is second growth forest, bordered on one side by Washington State DNR (Department of Natural Resources) forest &#8211; that we hope is never logged! It&#8217;s filled with beautiful hemlock, cedar, dogwood and bigleaf maple trees. The forest floor is carpeted in ferns and moss.&nbsp; In one cleared area, it has a view across the valley of Mount Storm King. One of my favorite discoveries on the property are the moss covered, glacial erratic boulders that came from Canada in the last ice age. There&#8217;s also an overgrown trail to the upper part of the property that has a little cleared area that we plan to turn into a meditation/yoga spot.</div>
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		<div>Our plan is to preserve as much of the natural forest as we can. We don&#8217;t plan to cut down any more trees. CrtrGrl and I want to learn all that we can about the native plants and encourage them. We&#8217;ll be buying something temporary to live in, like a travel trailer, while we <a href="https://hippiesinforest.forest2sea.com/category/skoolie-adventure-diaries/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">build out Skoolie Woolie </a>into a permanent residence. Our plan includes building a greenhouse, growing a garden, plus building an office that can be a cabin for guests. We want to learn to be as self sufficient as we can, by growing much of our own food.</div>
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		<p>CrtrGrl and I plan to share our adventures and journey with you. As we learn to live in the forest, with minimal impact, we&#8217;ll share how we do it. We want to share our triumphs and our silly mistakes, so that you can learn from us. We&#8217;re all sharing this small blue planet. And we are interdependent with nature to provide a livable habitat, so we need to minimize our impacts and protect it the best we can.</p>
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		<div>If you&#8217;re like us, your skoolie windows leak! We always planned to end up on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, so we knew that lots of rain was in Skoolie Woolie&#8217;s future. From the reading we&#8217;ve done on <a href="http://skoolie.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">skoolie.net</a>, YouTube videos, and blogs, it&#8217;s a very common problem. Apparently, even bus windows on new school buses leak! We&#8217;ll take you through our adventure with our skoolie windows and how we &#8216;fixed&#8217; them in the end. We hope that by sharing some of our mistakes, you can take a shortcut with your bus and fix your skoolie window leaks.</div>
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		<div>Our leaky skoolie window adventure all started with seeing a <a href="https://youtu.be/UmTt5e4prxA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube video</a> on flipping the windows. We liked the idea of opening them from the bottom and gravity helping to fully close them. <a href="https://www.crtrgrl.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">CrtrGrl</a> and I briefly watched Jake von Slatt&#8217;s video showing how to do it before we decided to remove all of our bus windows. We thought it was a good idea to remove, clean, and re-seal, even if we didn&#8217;t end up flipping them. Our plan was also to replace some of the windows with metal, in places they would be covered anyways.</div>
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		<p>Removing the skoolie windows was fairly easy, once we removed all of the side paneling below them. After that, we only needed to remove 6 screws in order to pull the windows out of the bus walls. We took 2 of the 23 windows to experiment with. Sitting in the garage, we took apart the frames and pulled out the glass.</p>
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		<p>Watching Jake&#8217;s video and trying to see how to put the frames back together upside and backwards, we came to the stark realization that our skoolie windows can&#8217;t be flipped in the same way. Our window frames will not fit into the bus walls in a different orientation (upside down, flipped around). We quickly gave up on flipping them and resigned ourselves to just cleaning and re-installing them. We scraped off some of the old adhesive seals along the bottom edge and hosed them off.</p>
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		<p>Re-installation of the skoolie windows was a bigger challenge than we expected. For re-sealing, we purchased butyl tape for the bottom seal and silicone caulking for the rest. We tried the butyl tape on one window, but struggled to get it to sit properly. We then switched to adhesive foam weather strips for the bottom seal, since it&#8217;s thicker and squishier. It&#8217;s more forgiving when the bottom lip of the bus wall frame isn&#8217;t at exactly the right height.</p>
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		<p>We came to understand two things after we had almost all of the windows back in. First, the foam weather stripping wasn&#8217;t a good idea, since it carries water through it, rather than blocking it. Second, we should have kept track of which windows went where. Not all of the frames are the same and they didn&#8217;t all fit in the open spot we tried to put them in. Unfortunately, we didn&#8217;t realize any of this until we had almost all of the windows back in. The last few windows had to be hammered in and not all of the screws fit. To make up for the foam weather stripping, we applied silicone caulking around the outside edges of the windows.</p>
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		<p>Next up was our first test for water leaks. CrtrGrl was inside the skoolie with a pencil, while I was outside spraying the bus with a hose. She couldn&#8217;t keep up with all of the water that was coming in! There was so much coming in from the windows, that she also couldn&#8217;t tell where exactly they were leaking. After the bus dried off, I opened up another tube of silicone caulking and went to town on the outside bottom edge of the windows. I thought that if I put enough on, it couldn&#8217;t possibly get through. Another leak test, still more water coming in. More silicone in the bottom corners, less water coming in now, but they still leaked!</p>
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		<p>That&#8217;s when I&#8217;d had enough and realized we were either going to need to remove the windows and start over or come up with a different solution. I noticed that the stock skoolie has a little lip above the windows that directs falling water away from the top/open part of the window. Unfortunately, it seems to drop it straight onto the bottom lip of the window, where our foam weather stripping was and the leaks were coming in from.</p>
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		<p>What would happen if we kept the water from falling on the bottom edge of the windows altogether? That&#8217;s when I came up with the idea of putting eaves on the bus. Gutters would also work, but may not be good at freeway speeds. Estimating with a tape measure, we figured out that a 4 inch width attached to the existing lip above the windows should push the water out far enough. We decided to do one eave per window to make installation easier, so we needed a total of 24 eaves, including the drivers window. The majority would be 28&#8243; long. The driver&#8217;s window and last windows on each side would be 34.5&#8243; long. Those lengths provided for some overlap and longer than 28&#8243; would provide for even better overlap.</p>
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		<p>Since we removed all of the metal ceiling panels from our bus, we had plenty of extra sheet metal to fashion the eaves out of. Using the metal blade on my parent&#8217;s table saw, we started cutting metal. Lots of sparks and nervous fingers later, we fashioned a proof of concept for the driver&#8217;s window. CrtrGrl tested it out and it fit perfectly! Next we went down to the local hardware store and purchased small screws and nylon locking nuts (Nyloc) to bolt them to the bus.</p>
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		<p>We spent the next few days cutting metal. Using the metal blade on the table saw, we cut the rough rectangular shapes out of the skoolie ceiling panels. Then I used an angle grinder with a rough sanding pad to get them into the right dimensions with smooth edges. Finally, CrtrGrl painted the edges with metal primer to keep the rust down.</p>
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		<p>To install the new eaves, I used a trigger clamp at each end to hold each eave to the bus lip, while I drilled holes through both for the screws. For the longer pieces, I used 3 screws and for the rest, I used 2 screws. With the nyloc nuts, each screw was secure and the eaves couldn&#8217;t move at all. The angle of the existing bus lip provided a great angle for the eaves to push the water away from the windows.</p>
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		<p>Once all of the eaves were installed, we tried another simulated rain test. I stood up on a ladder with the hose and sprayed the roof of the bus. The water ran down the sides of the roof and off the eaves. The water didn&#8217;t touch the windows! CrtrGrl figured out that we could even have the windows down a little bit in the rain without any water getting in. The rain test was passed, at least rain without wind. Of course, the windows could still leak if the rain is coming down sideways!</p>
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		<p>The final test was driving with the eaves. Since they just present a very thin profile from the front of the bus, I knew it should be low risk. During the full day of driving the bus from NorCal to Washington, I didn&#8217;t notice any issues with the eaves. No weird whistling or flapping. They seemed to be secure and wind-proof. The windows that we replaced the glass with metal inserts were a different story entirely, a story for another day.</p>
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		<p>CrtrGrl and I hope this detailed description of what we did to fix our skoolie window leaks will help others! We hadn&#8217;t seen any other skoolies with them, so we thought we should share how our frustration led to the idea. If your skoolie already has them, let us know in the comments! We&#8217;d also love to hear if you were inspired by us to create some of your own and how they worked for you!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This is Part 1 of our build diaries &#8211; the start of our skoolie demo (aka demolition) of Skoolie Woolie. CrtrGrl and I plan to document our trials and tribulations...</p>
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<p>This is Part 1 of our build diaries &#8211; the start of our skoolie demo (aka demolition) of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="Skoolie Woolie (opens in a new tab)" href="https://www.instagram.com/skooliewoolie/" target="_blank">Skoolie Woolie</a>. <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="CrtrGrl (opens in a new tab)" href="https://www.crtrgrl.com/" target="_blank">CrtrGrl</a> and I plan to document our trials and tribulations during our skoolie build here. We want to help others who have been inspired by the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="tiny house (opens in a new tab)" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_house_movement" target="_blank">tiny house</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="simple living / minimalism (opens in a new tab)" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_living" target="_blank">simple living / minimalism</a> movements or want to pursue a more nomadic lifestyle. Our inspiration to reduce our impact on the planet is due to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="mass extinctions (opens in a new tab)" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction" target="_blank">mass extinctions</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="shrinking wildlife habitat and deforestation (opens in a new tab)" href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-pressures-have-shrunk-wildlife-populations-by-60-percent/" target="_blank">shrinking wildlife habitat / deforestation</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="climate change (opens in a new tab)" href="https://www.globalchange.gov/" target="_blank">climate change</a>. We also want to reduce our <em>living expenses </em>so that we can spend more time <em>living</em>.</p>



<p>We have a rough design for our bus, no experience with tools and a can-do attitude. With help from family, we plan to learn as we go from the University of YouTube and the helpful community at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="skoolie.net (opens in a new tab)" href="http://www.skoolie.net/" target="_blank">skoolie.net</a>.  Our plan is to park Skoolie Woolie on some land in the Pacific NorthWest (PNW) and use it as a stationary tiny house. You can find our other articles on our skoolie <a href="https://tinyliving.forest2sea.com/blog/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="here (opens in a new tab)">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Skoolie Woolie&#8217;s Specs</h2>



<p>Here&#8217;s a little bit of info about Skoolie Woolie to start off:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The chassis is a 1993 Ford B700 and the <em>school bus stuff </em>was built by Carpenter</li><li>It&#8217;s a 38 feet long dognose bus &#8211; the engine sticks out in front of the bus</li><li>Skoolie Woolie has a relatively small Cummins 5.9L diesel engine with over 250K miles on it (odometer doesn&#8217;t really work, so not sure how many exactly) </li><li>It has an Alison AT545 automatic transmission</li><li>The original bus had 12 rows of seats for up to 72 kids with two emergency exits</li><li>Our bus was a real school bus in the Bakersfield School District (in California), until it was retired</li><li>It doesn&#8217;t have an air conditioner and just a driver&#8217;s heater</li></ul>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Skoolie Demo</h2>



<p>The previous owner removed all of the rows of seats, which helped us out a bunch! We&#8217;ve heard that&#8217;s no fun and we&#8217;re glad we got to skip that step. He also painted the exterior a nice tan color, so Skoolie Woolie is no longer school bus yellow. </p>



<p>Our initial goal is to strip our bus down to metal in order to see what we have to work with, and then build it back up. We want to remove all of the old insulation and install our own. We&#8217;re not too concerned about rust, but the right time to find out is now! In order to do that, we have to remove everything.</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Removing the Ceiling Panels</h2>



<p>To kick off our skoolie demo, we started removing the rivets in the ceiling panels and top side panels at the rear of the bus. We lucked out by choosing a Carpenter bus, since all of the interior rivets take a T20 <a rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="Torx  (opens in a new tab)" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx" target="_blank">Torx </a>(or star) bit. Other bus manufacturers use smooth rivets and each one has to be cut off. Each panel is bolted in (like an airplane) and also tucked in to each surrounding panel. </p>



<p>While trying to remove the rivets using a cordless impact drill, we stripped some of them. This was the least fun part of removing the ceiling panels from our skoolie. Due to lack of knowledge with all of the tools we had at our disposal, I used a hammer and small wedge (the hard way) to break off the heads of most of the stuck rivets. If we had it to do over again, we would have started with a metal cut-off wheel from an angle grinder, which we started using towards the end.</p>



<p>In order to free up the ceiling panels, we unscrewed and disconnected the interior lights and speakers. We plan to put in our own lighting and speakers, so we won&#8217;t be using the factory equipment. After all of the rivets were removed and equipment disconnected, we removed the panels. Even with all of the rivets removed, we had to pull hard and bend the panels to get them free.</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Fiberglass Insulation</h2>



<p>Underneath the ceiling panels, we found fiberglass insulation. At first, we started to remove each sheet of insulation as we removed each ceiling panel, all while wearing a face-mask. Some of it had to be removed immediately because they started to hang down. But after getting itchy fiberglass on my skin, I decided we should wait and do all of the insulation in one batch. We also decided to wear more protective gear when working with it.</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Getting Access to the Plywood Floor</h2>



<p>Next, CrtrGrl stripped the floor down to plywood. She removed all of the metal strips along the outside of the floor and the central walkway strip. She also removed the metal strips outlining the two wheel wells and removed the rubber covering. Then CrtrGrl used a strong flat head screwdriver to separate the rubber floor covering that was glued to the plywood. Finally, she rolled the rubber down the length of the bus until it ripped off. Word of caution &#8211; use your core muscles as this can be hard on your back!</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Coming Up</h2>



<p>In our next build diary, we&#8217;ll cover the second part of our skoolie demo. We&#8217;ll finish stripping the floor, remove all of the ceiling insulation and take on the driver&#8217;s heater. You can find our other articles on our skoolie <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tinyliving.forest2sea.com/blog/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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